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# Continuous Compliance Episode 3

EpisodE 3

In this episode of Continuous Compliance, Danielle Sheer is joined by two of her Commvault colleagues: Darren Thomson, Field CTO EMEA, and Jakub Lewandowski, Associate General Counsel EMEA. Using the UK’s proposed ransomware payment ban as a springboard, the trio dives into the complex decision-making involved in high-stakes cyber incidents – from data exfiltration and public safety to regulatory exposure. Together, they unpack the ethical, legal, and strategic dimensions of ransomware response and recovery. Through real-world examples and thought-provoking hypotheticals, they examine whether banning payments can truly dismantle the ransomware economy – or simply force it further underground.